tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post8910539678107818679..comments2024-01-23T05:53:38.549+01:00Comments on VJK's Diaries: Gladwell's OutliersVassily Kritishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07722927725208174562noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-66957168035586976072014-01-06T21:26:38.831+01:002014-01-06T21:26:38.831+01:00The easiest answer is to look at the bottom left h...The easiest answer is to look at the bottom left hand symbol in Answer A. Each symbol in A corresponds to the bottom left hand symbol of each 9 block above in the same order.The other 8 symbols in each block just confuse the eye! Hope that made sense :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-88705817026660543842013-10-02T06:58:18.695+02:002013-10-02T06:58:18.695+02:00Here is the real answer.
Clubs = 3, Hearts = 2, ...Here is the real answer. <br /><br />Clubs = 3, Hearts = 2, Diamonds = 1<br />Translate all symbols to their respective numbers<br /><br />Use in clock arithmetic where:<br />1-1 = 3(club) <br /><br />If we label each column from left to right across the top A-I.<br /><br />Column G = E - 1<br />Column H = F - 1<br /><br />If the whole square is a 3x3 stack of blocks then:<br />Column I top = F - A<br />Column I Mid = E - A<br /><br />Thus:<br />Column I Bottom = D - A<br /><br />This gives you the solution without having to have even see the answer key. <br /><br />-TTravishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08426589860335245046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-19344530516772615562013-07-13T06:43:53.184+02:002013-07-13T06:43:53.184+02:00Wow. All of these solutions seem extremely complic...Wow. All of these solutions seem extremely complicated. I got my solution (A, the correct solution) in about 2 minutes, not even kidding (I'm a 16 yr old btw). If you look at how the symbols are placed in relation to each other, you can make a lucky guess, i guess. Mine was either really lucky, or there is some reasoning behind it. If you look at the cloves in the given patterns, none of them have 3 cloves all next to each other. That rules out B E F G and H. The symmetry of D makes it extremely unlikely and awkward. C just doesn't seem likely because it is so orderly. That leaves A :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-61873659316712060072012-02-22T17:56:04.142+01:002012-02-22T17:56:04.142+01:00THE SIMPLEST AND MOST DIGESTIBLE/UNDERSTANDABLE AN...<b>THE SIMPLEST AND MOST DIGESTIBLE/UNDERSTANDABLE ANSWER THAT YOU WILL GET ANYWHERE ON THE WEB.</b><br /><br />THE ANSWER:<br /><br />CHANGES:<br />Hearts > Diamonds<br />Diamonds > Clubs<br />Clubs > Hearts<br /><br />3 columns<br />|||<br /><br />ORIGINAL LAYOUT<br /><b>D</b> C H<br /><b>D</b> H D<br /><b>H </b>C C<br /><br />Shift one square up to become<br /><b>D</b> C H <br /><b>H</b> H D <br /><b>D</b> C C<br /><br />Then move one column to the left, causing all the columns to move to the left. The last column moves left and becomes the right most column.<br />C H D<br />H D H<br />C C D<br /><br />Apply the changes (e.g Heart>Diamond)<br />H D C<br />D C D<br />H H C<br /><br />Case closed.Danielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-89830875430064380082011-06-08T06:39:05.247+02:002011-06-08T06:39:05.247+02:00I have to wonder if the puzzle was purposely loade...I have to wonder if the puzzle was purposely loaded with all of these dead-ends and partial patterns. I solved this puzzle on a flight from Orlando to Washington D.C. I recall another deceptively simple puzzle from MENSA: <br /><br />I spent hours searching for codes, equidistant formulas, letter groupings, etymologies. Never made that mistake again.<br /><br />http://www.tulsaoffroad.com/forums/showthread.php?1145-One-more-easy-one...&s=9b96952e4dded7d27f3721b9125f7f4bGrahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-3640458179371263132011-06-07T19:48:51.682+02:002011-06-07T19:48:51.682+02:00Commenter above
I know what you mean, the point of...Commenter above<br />I know what you mean, the point of abstract reasoning skills is noticing and stopping strenuos lines of thought. Im no prodigal but I got it in seconds and have never taken an iq test. your not aloan in ur observation.<br /><br />Sorry about spelling, typing on an I phone sucks with big hands lol.lonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721317780610108517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-82603079711950274422011-06-07T18:24:22.487+02:002011-06-07T18:24:22.487+02:00Whoa - I am amazed at all this.
It's far less...Whoa - I am amazed at all this.<br /><br />It's far less complicated than all of these detailed explanations in this forum. <br /><br />I'll give you a hint. Boxes 3-4 and 6-7 are related by rotating each symbol 3 hours counterclockwise around the center of the square.<br /><br />See it now? Should be easy to work out the rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-75450328890031660992011-01-05T18:17:45.487+01:002011-01-05T18:17:45.487+01:00Not sure why any of Anonymous or VJK's algorit...Not sure why any of Anonymous or VJK's algorithims are necessary.<br /><br />C= converging 3 symbols touch<br />d= diverging 3 symbols no touch <br />simple answer.<br /><br /> c / d<br /> -----------<br />Puzzle1/Row a) h,c / d<br />Puzzle2/Row a) h,d / c <br />Puzzle3/Row a) c /h,d mirror of p2.<br /><br />Follow the logic and the pattern through the remaining puzzles. A is the only answer. Should work for other version as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-56684365104657015192011-01-03T20:14:16.789+01:002011-01-03T20:14:16.789+01:00Just wanted to point out that solution A, can coin...Just wanted to point out that solution A, can coincidentally be exactly achieved by constructing a grid composed of the single value placed in the bottom left corner of each grid, constructed in the exact order they are listed.<br /><br />That is, if you take the value in the R3C1 position from each grid and put them together in the order of the grids in which they originate, they form solution A.<br /><br />While this has nothing to do with the composition of the other grids, it would be my rationale for selecting A when taking a timed test and reverse engineering a quick solution...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-89381793373315175582010-12-31T17:08:45.183+01:002010-12-31T17:08:45.183+01:00Divergence means discrete set of symbols do not to...Divergence means discrete set of symbols do not touch some way. Convergence means all discrete symbols of one set touch in some way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-83532868478606691882010-12-30T22:50:16.610+01:002010-12-30T22:50:16.610+01:00This is a "three bodies" puzzle. The fi...This is a "three bodies" puzzle. The first puzzle in row a.) has symbols h,c converged while d is dinverging. The question is how will they diverge? In puzzle two, row a, harts and diamonds are converged but clubs are not. In puzzle three row a, the mirror of puzzle 2's convergence is evident with. Puzzle 2 = h,d converging c divergent. Puzzle 3 =c converging and h,d divergent. Finding the mirror in the next problem sets the stage for the answer to the last puzzle.<br /><br />In the first puzzle of row b, clubs are converged while hearts and diamonds are divergent. In puzzle two row b, the mirror of puzzle one occurs harts and diamonds converge while clubs are divergent and in puzzle 3 row b, clubs and hearts converge while diamonds diverge. In order to preserve the pattern of the mirror puzzle, diamonds must diverge in the 3rd puzzle of line b.<br /> <br />Puzzle 1 on row c, hearts and clubs, converge with diamonds diverging. In puzzle two row b, we do not find the mirror of puzzle one. Therefore the answer a, the missing mirror of convergence of puzzle two row c, is the most likely answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-48006980607669476882010-11-17T04:19:18.323+01:002010-11-17T04:19:18.323+01:00One rule: no position can hold more than 5 of the ...One rule: no position can hold more than 5 of the same shape. To solve quickly, eliminate all the possible answers that break the simple rule. A quickly stands out. <br /><br />MBEduwiki.ushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00041223440439725660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-39506270422491210872010-08-31T08:54:00.809+02:002010-08-31T08:54:00.809+02:00Ok, the answer is A the using the same solution I ...Ok, the answer is A the using the same solution I posted to the alternate question disregarding 1 single tiny square in the top left grid(diamond to diamond vs diamond to clover). I have a seeking suspension its flawed, I saw plenty of other patterns that only pertained to 1 row or fewer than 6 squares but couldn't put them together. Its over my head or flawed, and considering the tameness of the other version I suspect the latter.lonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721317780610108517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-58622229148651801172010-08-31T06:58:23.147+02:002010-08-31T06:58:23.147+02:00Oh and my solution only works for the version in m...Oh and my solution only works for the version in my book haha.lonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721317780610108517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-70305127930965444462010-08-31T05:08:19.686+02:002010-08-31T05:08:19.686+02:00Got it in 5 secs, It's A
The symbols alternat...Got it in 5 secs, It's A <br />The symbols alternate and are moving to the left with an upward bias at the end, heart to diamond, diamond to clover and clover to heart. <br /><br /> A complected algorithm is the next possibility after person does not notice the obvious, and in this case it was a dead give way after the watching the first two squares "move". I have a 144 IQ and yes that means I IS SMARTCHA! but seriously, the thing about abstract reasoning is the ability to notice the subtle not the necessarily the complicated, and as Mr. Gladdwell's sentiment suggests, that is not a requirement for leading and impactful successful life.lonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07721317780610108517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-59719181623311367362010-08-30T02:22:19.486+02:002010-08-30T02:22:19.486+02:00Simple solution.
Think in terms of connected (tou...Simple solution.<br /><br />Think in terms of connected (touching) and not connected. Row one, for instance, hearts are connected (all three hearts touching), connected, not connected.<br /><br />Row 2 hearts are not connected, connected, connected. <br /><br />Row 3 hearts are connected, connected, ? -> mot connected.<br /><br />(hearts two connected, one not connected per row. Clubs 2 connected, one not connected per row. Diamonds one connected, 2 not connected per row.)<br /><br />The only solution that fits this criterion for row three is A.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-38280194193610944732010-05-04T05:55:09.072+02:002010-05-04T05:55:09.072+02:00That's really *(@#& annoying!
Of course...That's really *(@#& annoying! <br /><br />Of course it's hard to solve a puzzle that's has an error in the first step.<br /><br />Anyway congrats to Dave for finding the solution:<br /><br />Moving left to right (R1C1 -> R1C2), use the following:<br /><br />1. Shift to left, bumping up:<br /><br />123 -> 234<br />456 -> 567<br />789 -> 891<br /><br />2. Substitute H->D, D->C, and C->H<br /><br />When moving to the next row, rotate 90 degrees.<br /><br />-MercyMercy Vetselnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-23267761155559559162010-04-26T16:23:29.379+02:002010-04-26T16:23:29.379+02:00***READERS OBSERVE***
ACTUAL SOLUTION DATA:
1. R...***READERS OBSERVE***<br /><br />ACTUAL SOLUTION DATA:<br /><br />1. REFER TO VERY FIRST POST BY AUTHOR VJK<br />2. REFER TO POSTS BY AUTHOR HALL PERFECTING SOLUTION.<br /><br />ENOUGH OF THE MUDLSINGING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-71307980329452886052010-03-18T17:48:41.851+01:002010-03-18T17:48:41.851+01:00i think mankel is a fu*king douchebag
if u were th...i think mankel is a fu*king douchebag<br />if u were that clever u should have come out with dave's solution earlier.<br />big douchebagAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-63906369171956188542010-03-12T15:29:17.967+01:002010-03-12T15:29:17.967+01:00A is the only grid without two or more like symbol...A is the only grid without two or more like symbols in the top row, and in the pattern we are working from, neither of the grids in the bottom row of grids have two like symbols in the top row, so only A fits that pattern. could it just not be that simple?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-90170517603357314082010-03-02T01:24:01.493+01:002010-03-02T01:24:01.493+01:00Your last post is almost completely wrong by my op...Your last post is almost completely wrong by my opinion, and since You think the same about me, it is better to end this, since it is really going nowhere :)<br /><br />Bye<br />VladaVlada Peterkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03103097295849390973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-35798139238808011122010-03-02T00:26:24.772+01:002010-03-02T00:26:24.772+01:00Sorry but no :)
There is a single solution: A.
T...Sorry but no :)<br /><br />There is a single solution: A.<br /><br />The "first" puzzle has a mistaken first grid.<br /><br />Think about this: the puzzle is designed to be solved quite rapidly by following a progression from left to right and up-down. I am not making this up, it is how they were designed: you have to find the next one in the progression and not a "holistic" solution that doesn't exist.<br /><br />This kind of puzzles are designed algoritmically and there is not "my solution" against "your solution", and if there were equivalent procedures, both would have to conclude with the same solution.<br /><br />Either you can try to understand this or remain dumbfounded.<br /><br />I'm done trying to iluminate you.<br /><br />ByeMankelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-50773937303591938342010-03-02T00:02:16.320+01:002010-03-02T00:02:16.320+01:00Hi Mankel,
No problem at all. I see what You mean...Hi Mankel,<br /><br />No problem at all. I see what You mean, but this is not working with the other puzzle very well.<br /><br />Apply my system and you will get one unique solution for both versions ( your link has the solution B, mine link has the solution D )<br /><br />So, maybe I have no clue, but my system works. You are right, your system works fine for this puzzle, and it could not be a coincidence that shifting and moving works, but you can not say that mine solution is bad only because you don't like it. Plus, mine solution has advantage of being correct for both versions, so there it goes :)<br /><br />I am not from USA ( duh, like if my English hasn't hinted it already :) ), so I am not aware of this book, different veditions etc. Maybe they have corrected themselves in the second edition or something, I have no idea, but then they have this flaw that it can be solved using my lousy technique :)<br /><br />ByeVlada Peterkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03103097295849390973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-39176222469717287372010-03-01T23:04:47.810+01:002010-03-01T23:04:47.810+01:00Sorry Vlada, but you don't have a clue!!!
Shi...Sorry Vlada, but you don't have a clue!!!<br /><br />Shift hearts into diamonds, diamonds into clubs and clubs into hearts.<br /><br />Then, move every cell to the left or up-right if you are in the first column of to the bottom right if it is the upper left one. That way you get the changes from the first grid (the one corrected, thats why it only worked in 7 of 8 changes for Dave) to the second, 2nd to 3rd, 4rth to 5th, 5th to 6th, 7th to 6th and 8th to A (the correct answer).<br /><br />To get the 4th grid from the 3rd and the 7th from the 6th, you just rotate the grid 90 degrees to the left.<br /><br />If with this instructions you are still unable to get it... I guess that says a lot about your ability to solve this kind of puzzles ;-) Plzz, no hard feelings.Mankelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2741840658355400085.post-71130663126822911252010-03-01T15:18:52.204+01:002010-03-01T15:18:52.204+01:00Hi Mankel,
Thanks for sending me the other versio...Hi Mankel,<br /><br />Thanks for sending me the other version of the problem. I was not reading through Dave's solution since he said, if I am correct that the answer is A.<br /><br />And I think that Dave said that for the other version his system works in 7/8 of the puzzle or something similar.<br /><br />For the test seen on that illustration I made, correct answer is D, and D only. For this new solution unique correct answer is B, and there is no shifting nor rotating, it is quite simple counting. If you want I could illustrate this as well :) <br /><br />Thanks again,<br />ByeVlada Peterkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03103097295849390973noreply@blogger.com